So, Diablo 3 is out today, eh? I’m glad you’re taking the time to watch today’s scene! ;D
If you have picked it up, what are your first impressions? I enjoyed Diablo 1 and 2, though I never beat either of them. If I had less on my plate, I would probably give Diablo 3 a shot, but, like Mass Effect 3, I think I’ll wait for the Game of the Year edition!
Speaking of RPGs, what are your favourite iOS/Android RPGs? (Not counting ports, like Chrono Trigger! :D)
Did you spread The Pocalypse Defense 2 campaign today? Please do! Let’s make it happen! :D
http://www.indiegogo.com/thepocalypsedefense2
Enjoy Scene 6 – “A Familiar… Face?”!
Great scene! I’ll try Diablo later aswell ;)
To be completely honest Joe: What i found in diablo I and II: Very good combat for the time (you know, the golden 90s) and very easy to jump right into… what i do not like in the Diablo games: Weak, weak, weak story, no charactert options whatsoever (in relation to the story that is) I find the rightclicking to become rather tiresome, and in general neither of the two previous games could entertain me for more than a couple of hours, due to the fact that they required so little of my attention that i oculd play whilst thinking about completely other things, and suddenly i would realise that i had now beaten the entire game.
And what I keep hearing people say is that it is a good RPG. But diablo is not an RPG, the fact that you have levels does not make it an RPG, that is just a way to measure what kind of power your toon has. Diablo 1 and 2 didn’t give you any real character options in relation to story. Its an action hack and slash, dungeon runner game, and theres nothing wrong with liking or disliking the genre, personally i feel theres no immersion in the games, which is why i dont play them.
-GASP- THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED~! :3 -fanboy squeal-
Maybe the gang can get Zombie paper there! :3
Good scene btw :)
I’m guessing someone is an Earthbound fan? Caught the reference right away, it’s strangely very fitting!
@Rasmus Nielsen – Good points! You’re right that Diablo 1/2 aren’t very immersive and I never felt a connection to my character. Probably why I never beat them! But, you’re also right that the approachable combat system makes the game enjoyable, at least for a little while :D
@AcadianBacon & DJ Deadbeat – Glad you got the reference! Send the pizza delivery guy! :D
Nice scene. I didn’t realise you’d update so quickly, I’ve only just finished reading EVERYTHING :D
@Rasmus Nielsen @Joe
Now I feel a little relieved I wasn’t the only one who didn’t finish that game.
I’ve borrowed it from my friend a long time ago (Borrowing… lol, What game can you possibly borrow today? Not a Blizzard one that is for sure.) but it just got more boring as I progressed. I couldn’t find a character I truly enjoyed playing as and maybe there was too much variety. And definitely too much griding. I gave up in Act 3 in the jungle/swamps, it was too big and the fetish creatures annoyed me to no end. Maybe it also had to do something with my exploring nature in games, because I like to find explore and see every corner of the map. I realized that I’m that kind of person in general and it happens in every game I play. If the story doesn’t interest me anymore I usually just won’t finish the game, because I explored everything I was interested in and now it became boring. I’ve yet to play a really good (true) RPG that I also had finished.
Also I loved today’s comic. I wonder who that mutant will turn out to be.
I prefer horror games that takes place in modern times or later
first scene takes place between Twoson and Fourside (lol earthbound reference)
oh, someone already got that
@Otter I personally enjoy the Final Fantasy series (YES ALL OF THEM).I enjoyed 8 and 9 the most and well 7 is kinda overrated.But as far as in general then Final Fantasy is all about story.You just blend in and you stay in.I would like to think of it as reading a good book.
Anyway the scene was wonderful and i really do hope that Joe gets it together.I mean he being an ass is regular but he needs to understand that he is currently just a civilian.Or maybe the elder is watching over his shoulder making sure he doesnt get into trouble.Well i guess well find out…
Finally, this is what i have been waiting for. Joe finally meets Annika!
@Rassmuss I dissagree. For a game of that time, Diablo was a pioneer in RPGs. Yeah, nowadays we have games that let us choose a race, face, colours, accessories, and recently there has been a huge increase in games that let you be the protagonist of the story and proggress it as you like. Making your choices and having them affect your movement. But at that time games where JUST recently stopped being DOS games, RPGs where just starting to appear in videogame format, they couldn’t have just jumped into a perfect RPG just like a real life one. That would have taken too many years for a buissness that was just starting. It was non-profitable to make a game it’d take 10 years to develop, whose graphics would stay low and possibilities still limited. Diablo was indeed an RPG. You chose which path you took. Maybe not so much story wise, but still a lil in that sense, since some of the things you did had impact on your story line. Such an example would be the quest on which you have to retrieve the inn keeper’s sign, you could choose to return it or to give it to the goblins, and you couldn’t go back in that. You could choose a class, and which armour you would use, which combination of weapons with special abilities combined with yours. You could choose your style of play aswell as your stats, and the damage, amongst many other things, was subject of many variables, such as armour, dice luck, str/int/agi, mana/hp. Well developed RPG games where scarce in the time Diablo 1 came out, it was like an experiment, much like a dungeon run, but with an RPG variable that increases and goes further every time. You can’t expect the first try to be perfect. I believe it to be a great successful pioneer of its time and a good base for future RPGs. Blizzard in fact developped ALOT further, and is now one of the best RPG makers, with a game such as WoW. If you know how to immerse yourself (you can’t expect the game to do it for you ALWAYS specially not if you have lots of choices) Warcraft has an IMMENSE lore, with thousends of plot twists and wonderful story line! Diablo may not have help much story, but it did hold some aswell, and Diablo 3 is the final compilation of years of developing the story that was being tested in Diablo 1. If you search the dungeons and find the books you’ll get some insigh to the story, and if you get into it in Diablo 2, it expands alot more. And the story references also appear as items. And lots of items have their own story, aswell as the characters and they even add some story to certain rooms of the dungeon. It may not immerse you, but I’m sure you can get immersed if you get into it. Maybe you just didn’t like the theme of the story, because I sure did, and I immersed just fine. Final Fantasy is another RPG pioneer aswell. But their story… Hell man, it extends on too many levels. I still love that one though Joe :D
i must admit i would be playing diablo 3 but the servers are down :(
This made my day much better.
I would have chosen Minecraft Pocket Edition,but you said no ports :(.Plus,I might pick up Torchlight 2.
@Otter
I did however beat the whole Diablo II campaign, i just don’t remember much of it, because it did not keep me very focused.
@ Dagzter
well, i don’t quite agree on the FFVII thing, though i cannot speak for the game it self, only the movie and Crisis core, and I read up on the story and loved it. But It’s really a matter of preference
oh…my..god
Great scene :D
Glad to see the Mother series getting some love. Keep up the awesome work, Joe.
Uh oh. This can’t be good for anyone. Sam has taken control of Bug it seems and HEY LOOK A BUS IT’S A MIRACLE FOR ONCE THERE IS A MOTORIZED VEHICLE OTHER THAN A CAR YAY!!
I found this website after playing (some) of the game on mochigames.com. I thought “Oh good another stupid comic for four year old hipsters.” I quickly realized just how good this web comic was. I became addicted and although I am very easily distracted (squirrel!) I basically read this comic for three days straight to catch up. I then realized I had reach the last comic so far. All I could think was FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU—-!!!!!!!! I can’t WAIT for the second game to be made and I will try my best to contribute in anyway possible. Love your comics and you better not stop making them! I need to know what the heck is going on in Joe’s mind! And I doubt you get many comments like this without the whole “First!” thing going around or other random stuff. Anyway, keep working hard on all this and I hope your family is doing well. I assume your son (sorry if I’m wrong I’ve been reading these fast) is almost two years old by now. Tell him happy birthday from me if I don’t post again on his birthday. Good luck with your game and comics!!
Smores
I’m sorry. Happy belated birthday to your son. Hope he goes as super Jesus for halloween if you celebrate it. I wouldnt’t know. :P Same ending as my last comment.
Smores
It’s him. It’s Samuel. He went into the mind of a Mutant. But wait…DON’T FRIGGIN TELL ME! SAMUEL = MUTANT BEST FRIEND OF WEREWOLF!
Honestly, I will never play Diablo 3. I absolutely DESPISE it when a game demands that I have the internet to even install it. I can understand such a thing for an MMO, which has online right in the bloody name and doesn’t even have a single-player function, or for games that are only distributed on the internet, such as Minecraft. But a game with a single-player feature that I can buy in a store? No. NEVER. I should not be required to purchase a function for a game that could otherwise run without it. To me, these are not games, but instead trash. And that is all that Diablo 3 will be to me. I will not be forced to have the internet connection to install a game to play on my own, let alone keep a constant connection while playing! It, to me, is disgusting and repulsive!
As such, I refuse to play Steam games too. The idea that my game playing experience is also depending on a third (fourth if you want to include the power companies) party is also deplorable.
@BloodWolf7
I used to feel the same way as you, but then i took an epiphany to the brain; A lot of the games i REALLY want to play, i do not have access to otherwise, so its not really that much of a choice for me. Besides i dont really think the interwebz will just dissappear overnight. But i totally get what you mean!
@Rasmus Nielsen
There were a few games I was curious about, a couple I kinda wanted to play even. I made an exception for StarCraft II because it was a Christmas present and would have been rude not to play it, but to me it’s like I’m handing over my rights as a gamer. I don’t feel like the companies respect me as a gamer, or even want my business. I won’t be changing my mind, and my feelings are fairly well known. So, unless someone is deceived into buying a Steam game or something, I won’t be making any other exceptions out of politeness. At times, I’d really like to develop games just to stick it to these companies.
My rights are not for sale, and I will not just give them away. Be it to a government, or to a company.
I can’t tell whether the mutant was talking to Bernie or Joe when he mentioned a sister. If Bernie, then I presume the mutant is Samuel in the mutants body. If Joe, then maybe the mutant is Bug? Agh, I dunno.
@Bill – I think he was talking to Bern when he said sister, cuz Bug, and Sam for that matter, doesn’t know Joe has a sister, and Sam knows about Bern’s and his sis’s father.
Anyways, just going to state a theory I thought up, but couldn’t get the right timing to state it (till now?).
You know how Sam was able to take over Joe’s body and said it was ‘suppose’ to be a ‘clone’ for him to use right? And how he first sent one of his ‘mind clones’ into a body that seems to have been in a ‘car crash’?
Well my theory is that person was Joe, reason he was able to access that body is that their generics are similar (how he looks like Sam’s ‘clone’), and Joe’s alter ego is Sam’s ‘mind clone’, just gone out of whack due to the coma.
Now then, Joe’s powers, as you can tell, are due to ‘Powerfist’ (going to name ‘Alter Joe’ that, since reg Joe has no powers), and reason he could ‘mindcraft’ was due to PF’s presences – that’s why he can’t go into the ‘mind world’ without help. Anyways, since PF is sealed Joe can’t use his powers, can tell since it was stated earlier that PF was the reason that he was invulnerable.
Now then, my newest theory. Sam is able to take control of the mutant’s body because it’s brain isn’t there, was taken by the machines (if it’s Bug, if not then because the mutant was one of Ben’s experiments gone wrong?), so he has full access to it.
@Smores Hehe, welcome to the club. :) The three day reading happened to me as well when I first found the comic :D
@Bill
It’s Samuel in the mutants body. When Joe and Samuel met they were inside of the “Dream World” and Joe was a blocky figure that he created, that’s why he said it’s good to see Joe not so blocky this time. Bug has never even seen Joe I don’t think. Samuel was also talking to Bernie when he mentions a sister, he didn’t shift back over to Joe after he started talking to Bernie.
Hm…I was wondering when Samuel would reappear again. Perhaps he has solutions to Joe and Bernie’s respective problems.
@BloodWolf7 I really don’t see the issue you have with Steam, unless it’s because there’s a lack of a hard copy game. Steam has the option to play games offline. In fact, you’d really only need to go online once (unless you’re buying other games or you want to play online multiplayer which would be redundant). There’s an option right under the Steam tab that says “Go Offline”. It is a misconception that Steam games cannot be played without an internet connection.
@TheSolarKnight
That’s usually the response I get, but that’s a misunderstanding. I guess I should work on my phrasing better, for that I apologize. My concern is that you are required to have the internet to install a game that doesn’t actually need it to be played. It has single player options and you shouldn’t have to have the internet to install a game that can be played by yourself. Even if it’s a game that’s largely purchased for it’s multiplayer options, that still doesn’t justify, to me, requiring everyone to have to have the internet to so much as install a game when there will be people who will just want to play it on their own.
Also, my wife has Steam games and her “offline” function hardly seems to work right most of the time.
What?You guys figured out that it was Sam in Bug’s body before me??*rage*
Okay, so no ports, that leaves off Kingdom of Dragon Pass, I guess. I’m not quite sure if it counts as an RPG anyway, I just know it’s the best game I ever had for any phone thing ever.
Well I also helped spread the news on the forums by adding my string in it. Joe was more than happy to use it for his news for fellow forumers. Good scene Joe!
@BloodWolf7 – You know, to download something, unless you have a hard-copy (CD/USB/etc), you would need the internet right (well not really the internet, more of a server that has that data of that game and such, not a tech person so can’t really say)? How else are you going to download it?
Steam is more of a storage and load, from my analysis, like a NDS and the little cartridge.
THREED!!! <>
Loving this comic :D so unique!
@Blank
Yes, of course, but we were talking about hard copies weren’t we? If you look up at my earlier comments I said;
“I can understand such a thing for an MMO, which has online right in the bloody name and doesn’t even have a single-player function, or for games that are only distributed on the internet, such as Minecraft.”
Diablo3 was sold over the internet, but it was also sold via hard copy. As are may games that are “Steam titles”, such as L4D, and Left4Dead2. We’re not talking about Cave Story+, without a physical medium of transportation and sharing outside of a few flash drives. We’re talking about games that are DISTRIBUTED VIA PHYSICAL MEDIUM that happen to require AN UNNECESSARY SERVICE, merely because they are forcing you to do so in order to play the game. This is done by needing the internet to install the game completely, or done by requiring a CONSTANT ONLINE CONNECTION in order to play the game, despite it not actually needing the connection.
If you were to make it not require those functions the game would be almost entirely, if not entirely, unchanged by them. You are BEING FORCED TO SUBSCRIBE TO AN UNNECESSARY service, that is my point and why I refuse to play these games, why I refuse to give my cash for these games. The fact that most of us present have access to the internet at this time is irrelevant. There are still people who do not have regular access, for whatever reason, and would be forced to purchase this extra service.
It is sometimes claimed that this is for piracy protection, but it does not stop it and does not really deter people. I’ve known people who have pirated SCII, and I’m sure that there are ways to pirate DIII as well. The infinite download and storage does not make up for it, as this is a service that they could very easily have offered to people who have the internet and would want to register their game online, while still allowing people to purchase and play offline, without ever needing the internet.
I hope that I have better explained my issues here, instead of making things more confusing.
Awesome :) Love the pocalypse :DDDDDDDDDD
Well, it is supremely awesome :D
Joe,why you no make new scene?
:( Joe is a normal guy with a normal life just like you and me. The only difference is that he spends most of his spare time creating this. So maybe he just doesn’t have the time at the moment. Maybe his baby is sick. Maybe he is in hospital. Think about it.
Or of course he could be working on The Pocalypse Defense II. Cut the guy some slack, he’s a busy guy. I’m sure he’s fine. We all have finite time and the comic isn’t even his job, just a supremely awesome thing he does.
( I don’t know if someone arleady said it,but I just had this idea )
IT’S BUG! The Machines’s elimination progress advanced his intelligence and now he’s MORE INTELLIGENT,has a PERSONALITY and all!
Or he’s Zomgack.
Anyway.. Diablo 3 is nice,tryied out all classes and hate only the Daemon ( I know it’s Demon,feels empty without that ‘a’.. :3 ) Hunter. For the rest is mostly awesome,the story is good,mobs aren’t impossible..
..I still prefer StarCraft 2 anyway,infactly I keep playing it atleast the double of D3 :P
Holy cow! How many times do you have to kill Bug to make him stay dead!? Uncooperative as Joe has been over the past 3-ish panels, he does kinda have a point… I’d like to see all that (although still somewhat overbearing at times) angst turn into a passionate defensive attitude towards New H-townIcan’tspell.
look look guys anyone who thinks its bug is an idiot, its Sam, the one who possessed Joe’s body for a short while earlier, he is just in Bug’s body